Tiny Tuner Vs Edison Comparison
Tiny Tuner |
Edison |
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Cost: $399 |
ECU Only, Flying Lead basic harness available $100 |
Cost: est $699-$799 |
ECU only, Flying Lead basic harness available $150. Premium harness with fuse box or power control options starting at $275 | |||
| The Tiny Tuner is inteded as a cost effective and basic 4 channel ECU. Limited and fixe analog inputs, but with a large number of PWM outputs. This is based on speeduino (UA4C) firmware This ECU is more suited for "basic" setups without the need for a lot of flexibility and using supported triggers. Some setting may require the user to open the ECU case and move a jumper. No interal logging or canbus (requires external controllers/3rd party). Hardware is slower than Edison and uses a less complex fuel model. |
The Edison is a cost effective but flexible and "full featured" ECU based on RusEFI firmware. Capable of control for 6 cylinder ECUs and more basic 8 cylinder applications. Supporting Drive-by-wire and more complex control models this ECU allows for more flexible control of you engine and periphrials. Supporting functions like Traction Control, Throttle-Mass-Flow, Torque managment/reduction and more. Supports Automatic transmission (may be output restricting!) and integration with RusEFI and other controllers for modern Trans Control (GM 8L, 8HP, GM 6L, etc) Supports use of the MicroSquirt IO box for trans control or additional I/O. Features internal logging (onboard SD card accessible via USB connection) and CanBus. Custom LUA scripting allows complex control and flexibility |
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Outputs |
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Outputs |
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| Injectors | 4 | Sequential 4 cylinder, Semi Seqential up to 8 | Injectors | 6 to 8 | 6 Dedicated, 2 PWM outputs can be repurposed for 8 cylinder sequential | |
| Ignition | 4 | Sequential 4 cylinder, Wasted Spark up to 8 (Logic Level - requires smart coil or igniter) | Ignition | 6 | Sequential 6 cylinder, Wasted Spark up to 12 (Logic Level - requires smart coil or igniter) | |
| Digital PWM | 4 | High Current w/ Flyback (low side) Boost, VVT, Idle, etc | Digital/PWM | 4 | High current w/ flyback (low side) Boost, VVT, Idle, Aux PWM control - Injectors 7 & 8 repurpose 2 of these outputs | |
| 8 | Low current (low side) - basic switching (relays, tach, etc) | 2 | Low current outputs (no flyback) for relays and basic control | |||
| 4 | Stepper Control output (all 4 required for stepper. NOT DBW Capable) | 2 | H-Bridge controllers (4 outputs total) Capable of 2 electric throttle bodies, wastegate controller or stepper idle motor | |||
| Output function software selectable. General Purpose outputs limited to basic boolan logic. Outputs can be reassigned based on logic pin (Unused Inj and Ign outputs can be used as outputs) | Output function sotware selectable. Includes 4 general purpose PWM tables with user definable axis (3D). More complex control available via LUA scripting. Un-used Inj/Ign outputs can be used as low side outputs | |||||
Inputs |
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Inputs |
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| Triggers | 2 | VR or Hall. Internal sub board conditioner for VR. Hall vs VR requires internal jumper change -Supports trigger supported by speeduino firmware |
Triggers/Digital Inputs | 7* | ~2 VR (integrated conditioner) ~3 Hall (digital) Inputs ~Wiring dictates VR vs Hall. Software configuration for function (Wheel speed, crank, cam, etc) ~Optional: Flex and Knock can be general purpose digital inputs -Support triggers in RusEFI firmware, more complex options and trigger capabilities |
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| Analog Inputs | 4+2 | ~4 Dedicated (TPS, IAT, CLT, O2/Wideband)Â Â ~2 User Definable (Oil or Fuel pressure) |
Analog Inputs | 9+2 | ~2 Temp Inputs (user definable) ~8 Analog Inputs (User definable, temp capable with external pull-up) ~On-Board Map ~Software selectable function (all inputs available for all functions. ~All inputs user definable |
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| MAP | 1 | On board Map (4bar) | MAP | 1 | On Board MAP (4 bar) | |
| Baro | 1 | On board baro sensor | Baro | 1 | On Board baro sensor | |
| Knock | NO | Â | Knock | 1 | Single channel knock input - can be repurposed for digital in | |
| VSS | 2 | ~Dedicated single VSS input, digital (hall) only (VR requires external conditioner) ~Second input can be assigned for speed, firmware only supports single speed source |
VSS | YES | Via trigger/Digital inputs. 4 wheel speed possible | |
| Flex Fuel | Yes | Dedicate Input | Flex Fuel | Yes | Dedicated input, can be reassigned | |
| Switched Inputs | 1 | Default Launch, Can be re-purposed | Switched Inputs | 3 | 3 dedicated switch/button inputs (all digital inputs can also be used as switch inputs) | |
Inputs are (generally) fixed function. Limited user definable inputs by firmware. |
Inputs are software definable. Pins have recommended labels, but all inputs (other than onboard Map) can be defined to any function supported by the input |
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On Board Functions |
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On BoardFunctions |
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| On-board Wideband | NO | Requires analog wideband | On-board Wideband | 1 | Single Channel Bosch 4.9 Wideband | |
| Internal Logging | NO | External serial based logging available | Internal Logging | YES | Onboard USB retrivable via internal SD. 32GB included | |
| CanBus | NO | External 3rd part controller required | CanBus | 1 | Internal CanBus controller with pre-defined and customizeable can options. AIM, Haltech and other dash compatible. | |
| Serial | YES | Internal serial + user routed Serial3 channel (for optional bluetooth and other modles) | Serial | optional | Internally. Requires internal connector | |
| Bluetooth | No* | Supported via external serial devices | Bluetooth | Optional | Not included, available via internal optional board (can be installed upon request) | |
Functions |
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Functions |
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| Boost Control | Yes | ~Open and closed loop boost ~Single target table only (no scramble or boost by gear) |
Boost Control | Yes | ~Open and closed loop boost ~Boost by gear and advanced boost trim/blend |
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| O2 Control | Yes | ~Single Bank/Overall only ~Short Term (No Long term trim tables) ~VE Analyze/"Auto-Tune" in software and logging |
O2 Control | Yes | ~Dual Bank closed loop ~Long and Short Term Trims ~VE Analyze/"Auto-Tune" in software and logging |
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| Nitrous Control | Yes | 2 Stage, Simple Switch | Nitrous Control | Yes | Single Stage, Simple switch (or General purpose table capable for more complex control or additional stages) | |
| VVT Control | Yes | Up to 2 cams | VVT Control | Yes | Up to 4 cams | |
| Advanced Fuel and Ignition Trims | No | ~2 dedicated VE and Spark tables (2nd table can be adders/multipler or blended based on fixed inputs (Ethanol %, TPS, MAP or RPM) ~Basic cylinder and warm up trims, no user definable trims |
Advanced Fuel and Ignition Trims | Yes | ~2 Dedicated VE and Spark Tables. Can be discreetly switched (i.e. high/low cam) or blended based on user defined axis, including 3D tables ~4 user definable trim and blend tables (3D) EACH for ignition and fuel |
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| Drive-by-wire | No | Not supported | Drive-by-wire | Yes | up to 2 DBW throttle bodies (up to 6A each)Â | |
| Communications | Â | ~USBÂ B (Tuning) ~Serial (Tuning and external Device) ~Bluetooth (for data/dash with optional 3rd party controller) |
Communications | Â | ~USB C (Tuning and Data Retrival) ~CanBus (external devices and expansion) ~Bluetooth (With additional board/Installed inernally) |
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